Kitty Thread

[Tirok]

Well, I didn't really want to resurrect the old feral theorycraft thread for a few reasons. The first is that I didn't know if they made any updates to the talent calculator or overall talents since then. The second is that I don't want people to see a thread that already has three pages and don't want to hop right in.

Is Primal Precision good to actually go for? I'm not entirely sure I need to spend the additional points for it. As far as I know, don't you already get energy refunded whenever you miss a finishing move?

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And, with SR, is it worth it going much beyond 2 combo points?

[TheFasc]

Toskk posted an updated calculator not too long ago using the newest iteration of Savage Roar (longer duration and 40% AP bonus). I gotta go dig it up though...

As for Primal Precision, no you do not get refunded the energy if you fail to land, it just sometimes appears that way from before when a tic happened immediately after you used the ability. Also, depending on the amount of Expertise we have passively on our gear (that is to say, not via enchants/gems/etc) we may or may not need this talent. It is certainly one you can likely out gear in later levels but will provide a nice boost early on. Remember the change to Omen of Clarity means the more we hit (both often and accurately) the more often it will go off, so we have a reason to actually get Expertise/Hit capped and not sniff at Haste that rolls our way.

As for the last question, the calculator will know for sure, I gotta find it first though :P

EDIT: Found it! http://druid.wikispaces.com/space/sh...ulator402.html

[TheFasc]

So far with just throwing in 6500 AP (high-ish but 5k isn't hard to hit now in raids) and 35% crit with NO Expertise/Hit/Haste/Armor Pen, a power shift every other cycle and raid buffs against a 10000 armor mob I got the following:

DPS = 2470.2781
DPS:AP = 3.6169
Str:AP = 2.332
Agi:AP = 2.1351
Crit Rating:AP = 1.5086
Hit Rating:AP = 1.9156
Weapon Dmg:AP = 7.5267
Haste Rating:AP = 0.9715
Armor Penetration:AP = 0.3355

And this is with Mangle, wait, Roar (1 point), Shred to 5 CP, Rip cycle.

Not HAMG AMAZING HIGH WOOT!!! But certainly better than the lower 2100ish DPS of not using Roar at all.

Interestingly enough, using Roar ALONE nets you like 1900ish DPS. I'll have to fiddle around with the calculator some more...

[Angstflamme]

By the DPS calculator, it says that it needs 300 hit rating to cap at 80, that can't be right, can it?

EDIT: Nope, it's actually more to reach 9%, about 335 at level 80.